{"id":1790,"date":"2009-09-15T00:01:24","date_gmt":"2009-09-15T06:01:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1790"},"modified":"2009-09-15T08:27:39","modified_gmt":"2009-09-15T14:27:39","slug":"seven-questions-over-breakfast-with-matt-phelan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1790","title":{"rendered":"Seven Questions Over Breakfast with Matt Phelan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/mattphelan1.jpg\" border=1><\/p>\n<p>Last year, I started this seven-questions-over-breakfast author\/illustrator interview series, all because there were a handful of new illustrators, in particular, with whom I really wanted to chat, whose careers I was following with interest, and whose art I was hankerin&#8217; to showcase. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mattphelan.com\"><strong>Matt Phelan<\/strong><\/a> was one of those folks. And it&#8217;s taken me this long to feature him here, but I finally have. I welcome him for a cyber-breakfast; Matt says he&#8217;ll take <font size=4>&#8220;<em>your classic eggs (style depending on whim), bacon, toast (with home-made jam), and home fries. And strong coffee, please.<\/font> Of course, I don\u2019t have this every day&#8230; except for the coffee. That is non-negotiable.&#8221;<\/em> Why, here&#8217;s a coffee-drinker after my own heart. Strong and MUST-HAVE: The two ways I like coffee best. And the rest of his breakfast is nothing to sneeze at either. He might have to come over more often. <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/storminthebarn2.jpg\" border=1>Though I&#8217;ve wanted to invite him over for a while, there&#8217;s no better time than now. Matt has illustrated a handful of picture books, since embarking on full-time children&#8217;s book illustrating in 2004 (which is &#8220;as much fun as it sounds,&#8221; he writes at his site)&#8212;as well as the Newbery-Award-winning novel, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9781416901945\"><em><strong>The Higher Power of Lucky<\/strong><\/em><\/a>, in 2006&#8212;but his newest venture is a graphic novel he wrote and illustrated himself, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780763636180\"><em><strong>The Storm in the Barn<\/strong><\/em><\/a>, released by Candlewick this month. <em>School Library Journal<\/em> calls it a <em>&#8220;complex but accessible and fascinating book,&#8221;<\/em> and <em>Kirkus<\/em> says it&#8217;s <em>&#8220;not to be missed,&#8221;<\/em> adding <em>&#8220;{a}uthor\/illustrator Phelan&#8217;s first graphic tale is part historical mystery, part fantasy thriller. The pencil-and-watercolor panels are cinematically framed and often wordless, advancing the plot and delineating character with careful strokes.&#8221;<\/em> It tells the story of eleven-year-old Jack Clark, living on his family&#8217;s farm in Kansas in 1937. There&#8217;s a terrible drought; Jack&#8217;s sister, Dorothy, is terribly ill; and Jack is consistently harrassed by bullies. Feeling generally useless to his family, he sees a terrifying apparition with a face like rain in a nearby abandoned barn, only to be told he is suffering from Dust Dementia. Jack must find the strength to defeat this phantom, and&#8230;well, that&#8217;s all I&#8217;ll say. I don&#8217;t want to give too much away. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/SITBstormcloud1.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>But I will say that the book is gripping and quite unlike anything else I&#8217;ve seen this year. Phelan brings us a tale that is part thriller, part historical fiction, and part homage to the wonderful Jack tales and L. Frank Baum&#8217;s <em>Oz<\/em> tales. It&#8217;s spare and beautiful, and the art is emotionally-compelling. Matt mentions below the &#8220;strain of melancholia&#8221; in his work, one of the things that draws me to it, and it&#8217;s never more apparent than in this title. Yet, it is also a triumph of hope and, ultimately, familial affection. <em>&#8220;With delicacy and style, Phelan draws readers into another time and place and brings to life a story that is like no other you can find anywhere else,&#8221;<\/em> <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.schoollibraryjournal.com\/blog\/1790000379\/post\/1650047765.html\">wrote Betsy Bird<\/a><\/strong> in August. <em>&#8220;{H}e can bring into sharp focus an image with an almost cinematic sense.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/StormearlyJacksketch.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/StormearlyJacksketchsmall.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<center><em>A preliminary drawing of Jack<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/SITBbarn1.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>I also realize, having formatted this interview, that there are many picture book titles he illustrated previously that I haven&#8217;t even <em>seen<\/em> yet. On that note, I need to be off to get copies and fix this problem, because it&#8217;s kind of a travesty, folks. But, first, let&#8217;s sit down and have a chat with him. I thank him, in particular, for sharing all the art work &#8212; especially the sneak-peek at the new <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeannebirdsall.com\"><strong>Jeanne-Birdsall<\/strong><\/a> picture book. Woo and hoo!<\/p>\n<p><em>Note: Absolutely do not miss Kelly Fineman&#8217;s recent sit-down interview in Philadelphia with Matt. It&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/kellyrfineman.blogspot.com\/2009\/07\/interview-with-matt-phelan.html\"><strong>here<\/strong><\/a>. They discussed his newest title in depth, as well as Matt&#8217;s very good reason for loving the ukulele as much as he does.<\/em> <\/p>\n<p><center><font size=4>* * * * * * *<\/font><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Are you an illustrator or author\/illustrator?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Newly minted author\/illustrator, but I still answer to &#8220;illustrator&#8221; if you see me on the street.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/higherpower.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>Spot illustration from <\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9781416901945\"><strong>The Higher Power of Lucky<\/strong><\/a><em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.susanpatron.com\"><strong>Susan Patron<\/strong><\/a><br \/> (Atheneum, 2006)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Can you list your books-to-date?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689871368\"><strong>The Seven Wonders of Sassafras Springs<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bettybirney.com\/\"><strong>Betty Birney<\/strong><\/a> (S&#038;S\/Atheneum)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689864681\"><strong>The New Girl&#8230; and Me<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jacquirobbins.com\/\"><strong>Jacqui Robbins<\/strong><\/a> (S&#038;S\/Atheneum\/Richard Jackson Books)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375836817\"><strong>Rosa Farm<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lizwu.net\/\"><strong>Liz Wu<\/strong><\/a> (Knopf)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9781416901945\"><strong>The Higher Power of Lucky<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.susanpatron.com\"><strong>Susan Patron<\/strong><\/a> (S&#038;S\/Atheneum\/Richard Jackson Books)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780803730847\"><strong>Floridius Bloom and the Planet of Gloom<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lorijometz.com\/Lorijo_Metz.html\"><strong>Lorijo Metz<\/strong><\/a> (Dial)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689830891\"><strong>A Box Full of Kittens<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.soniamanzano.com\/\"><strong>Sonia Manzano<\/strong><\/a> (S&#038;S\/Atheneum)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780803731226\"><strong>Where I Live<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eileenspinelli.com\/heart_001.htm\"><strong>Eileen Spinelli<\/strong><\/a> (Dial)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780152165680\"><strong>Very Hairy Be<\/strong><\/a>ar<\/em> by Alice Schertle (Harcourt)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780763632328\"><strong>Always<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by Ann Stott (Candlewick)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780152165833\"><strong>Big George<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.annerockwell.com\/\"><strong>Anne Rockwell<\/strong><\/a> (Harcourt)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9781416939986\"><strong>Lucky Breaks<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.susanpatron.com\"><strong>Susan Patron<\/strong><\/a> (S&#038;S\/Atheneum\/Ginee Seo Books)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9781416924371\"><strong>Two of a Kind<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jacquirobbins.com\/\"><strong>Jacqui Robbins<\/strong><\/a> (S&#038;S\/Atheneum\/Richard Jackson Books)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780763636180\"><strong>The Storm in the Barn<\/strong><\/a><\/em> (also author) (Candlewick)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/shakeeta1.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<center><em>Illustration from<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689864681\"><strong>The New Girl&#8230; and Me<\/strong><\/a><em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jacquirobbins.com\/\"><strong>Jacqui Robbins<\/strong><\/a><br \/>(Atheneum, 2006)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p>I also contributed short graphic stories to the anthologies <em><a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1470\"><strong>Our White House<\/strong><\/a><\/em> (&#8220;Hoover\u2019s One Term&#8221;)<\/em> and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Sideshow-Original-Illusionists-Matters-Magical\/dp\/0763637521\/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1252980666&#038;sr=8-8\"><strong>Sideshow<\/strong><\/a><\/em> (&#8220;Jargo!&#8221;)<\/em>, both from Candlewick.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/Jargosketch1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>A preliminary sketch for Matt&#8217;s short story,<\/em> Jargo!<em><br \/>(from the anthology,<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Sideshow-Original-Illusionists-Matters-Magical\/dp\/0763637521\/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1252980666&#038;sr=8-8\"><strong>Sideshow: Ten Original Tales of Freaks, Illusionists<br \/>and Other Matters Odd and Magical<\/strong><\/a>, Candlewick, 2009).<\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/crisp.jpg\" border=1><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong> {<em>pictured here is one of Matt&#8217;s blog sketches<\/em>}: What is your usual medium, or -\u2013 if you use a variety -\u2013 your preferred one?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I usually use some combination of pencil, ink, and watercolor, although I occasionally use gouache, acrylic, and pastel. I try to approach each book as something unique and decide on the medium and look of the book as I begin working on it. <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: If you have illustrated for various age ranges (such as both picture books and early reader books OR, say, picture books and chapter books), can you briefly discuss the differences, if any, in illustrating for one age group from another? <\/font>  <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/hansel1.jpg\" border=1><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I don\u2019t really think of it in terms of age group. Whether it\u2019s a picture book or a novel, I\u2019m trying to match the tone of the story, so I suppose the age appropriateness takes care of itself. The real difference is that for picture books, you are concerned with creating the whole &#8220;world&#8221; of the book. The reader will be completely immersed in your visual presentation, and you have to pay close attention to details like the page turn and the rhythm of the images. For novels, you are trying to accent the prose with small glimpses into the scene. The graphic novel seems to be a sort of hybrid of the two, with some particular challenges of its own, such as manipulating the size of the panels in order to influence the reading experience.<\/p>\n<p>All that sounds pretty technical. Really, no matter what the book, I\u2019m always trying to serve the story and, whenever possible, add to the story with my pictures.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/Alwaysspot1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>Illustration from<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780763632328\"><strong>Always<\/strong><\/a><em> by Ann Stott (Candlewick, 2008)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Where are your stompin\u2019 grounds?<\/font>  <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/skate1.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/bluebearinterview.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/berryfullinterview.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<center><em>The early sketch and final illustration<br \/>for<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780152165680\"><strong>Very Hairy Bear<\/strong><\/a><em> by Alice Schertle (Harcourt, 2007).<br \/>(&#8220;I switched from my usual pen and watercolor to Conte crayon and pastel on a very soft &#8212; almost fuzzy &#8212; toned paper,&#8221; Matt told me back in July &#8217;07, <a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=786\"><strong>when he visited<\/strong><\/a> and shared these images.)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/phelansassafras.jpg\" border=1><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Can you briefly tell us about your road to publication?<\/font>  <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Once I finally realized that illustrating children\u2019s books was what I wanted to do when I grew up (i.e. my early thirties), I spent about three years or so developing a decent portfolio. The problem was that I kept rejecting pieces and starting over. In order to stop that self-defeating cycle, I signed up for a portfolio review at a regional SCBWI event. By the luck of the draw, I was assigned to Polly Kanevsky, an art director from Simon and Schuster. She liked my work and showed my portfolio to Richard Jackson, and he hired me to illustrate <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689864681\"><strong>The New Girl&#8230; and Me<\/strong><\/a><\/em>. As I was working on the sketches for that book, Polly was having difficulty finding an illustrator for <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689871368\"><strong>The Seven Wonders of Sassafras Springs<\/strong><\/a><\/em>. She happened to page through my portfolio again and noticed some black and white drawings I had included, showing a boy and his little sister in the Dust Bowl (early sketches for the story that became <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780763636180\"><strong>The Storm in the Barn<\/strong><\/a><\/em>). She saw that I could draw depression-era kids in overalls, so I got the job. Because it was scheduled for an earlier list than <em>The New Girl<\/em>, <em>Seven Wonders<\/em> became my first published book.<\/p>\n<p><em>{Ed. Note: Pictured above left is an illustration from<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689871368\"><strong>Seven Wonders<\/strong><\/a>.}<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/sevenwonders.jpg\" border=1><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Can you please point us to your web site and\/or blog?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: My newly revamped website is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mattphelan.com\"><strong>www.mattphelan.com<\/strong><\/a>. My sketch blog <a href=\"http:\/\/planetham.blogspot.com\/\"><em><strong>Planet Ham<\/strong><\/em><\/a> is in its fourth year now.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/phelan_neighbors copy.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/phelan_neighbors copysmall.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<center><em>(Click to enlarge.)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: If you do school visits, tell us what they\u2019re like.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: My presentation is always about process. I try to demystify the creative process and also show kids that illustration is a real profession and something they can work towards doing, if they are so inclined. I generally don\u2019t read my books out loud. I always answer questions as I go along, because the questions are often incredibly interesting. One second grader asked me how I knew just when to stop working on a drawing, when it isn\u2019t too little or too much. I told her that she just asked probably THE question that has vexed artists for as long as there has been art. Amazing. I also told her that I\u2019ll be struggling with that question for the rest of my career.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/luckybreakspot1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>Spot illustration from<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9781416939986\"><strong>Lucky Breaks<\/strong><\/a> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.susanpatron.com\/\"><strong>Susan Patron<\/strong><\/a><br \/>(Ginee Seo Books, March 2009)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: If you teach illustration, by chance, tell us how that influences your work as an illustrator.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I don\u2019t teach illustration, mostly because I feel like I\u2019m still making it up as I go along. I was a guest at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mica.edu\/\"><strong>MICA<\/strong><\/a> (Maryland Institute College of Art) a couple of years ago, and I spent the day talking to students and casually reviewing their work. It was very interesting but also very draining. I\u2019m not sure I have the stamina to do that on a regular basis.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/WhereILive1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>From<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780803731226\"><strong>Where I Live<\/strong><\/a><em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eileenspinelli.com\/heart_001.htm\"><strong>Eileen Spinelli<\/strong><\/a><br \/>(Dial Books, 2007)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Any new titles\/projects you might be working on now that you can tell us about?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I\u2019ve recently finished spot illustrations for a fantastic non-fiction book called <em>Spilling Ink: A Handbook for Young Writers<\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ellenpotter.com\/\"><strong>Ellen Potter<\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazingmazer.com\"><strong>Anne Mazer<\/strong><\/a> (Roaring Brook, 2010). I was extremely excited to be the illustrator for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeannebirdsall.com\/\"><strong>Jeanne Birdsall\u2019s<\/strong><\/a> first picture book, <em>Flora\u2019s Very Windy Day<\/em>, which is about a little girl and her brother who are blown into the sky. Flora spends the time entertaining various offers to take her pesky brother off her hands. It comes out in 2010 from Clarion. I\u2019ve just started work on Ann Stott\u2019s second picture book (<em>For You<\/em>) for Candlewick, and this fall I\u2019ll be working on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.susanpatron.com\"><strong>Susan Patron\u2019s<\/strong><\/a> third <em>Lucky<\/em> novel.  After that, I begin drawing my next graphic novel for Candlewick, <em>Around the World<\/em>, which is based on the true stories of three people who made solo journeys around the world at the end of the nineteenth century.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/Flora's WindyDay cover1.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<center><em>Cover of<\/em> Flora&#8217;s Very Windy Day<\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/florasketch11.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/FLORAcrispin1.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<center><em>Two character sketches: Flora and Crispin<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/FLORAcrsp1FINAL.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/FLORAcrsp1FINAL1.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<center><em>A finished illustration from the book.<br \/>(Click to enlarge.)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/coffee cup8.jpg\" alt=\"Mmm. Coffee.\" title=\"Mmm. Coffee.\"><font color=\"000066\">Our table&#8217;s set&#8212;eggs, mmm&#8212;and breakfast is ready. Time for the Big Seven. Let&#8217;s keep at it&#8230;<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>1.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What exactly is your process when you are illustrating a book? You can start wherever you\u2019d like when answering: getting initial ideas, starting to illustrate, or even what it\u2019s like under deadline, etc. Do you outline a great deal of the book before you illustrate or just let your muse lead you on and see where you end up?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/jackrunfinaltouse.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>Illustration from<\/em> The Storm in the Barn<\/center><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: After reading the manuscript a couple of times, I\u2019ll start sketching some characters and rough ideas. Then I\u2019ll do a series of thumbnail drawings (very small sketches) to work out composition, gesture, and the overall idea for each illustration. Then I\u2019ll usually make another series of sketches (still very loose) to show to my editor and art director. After some back and forth, I\u2019ll begin on the final illustrations that will be based on the sketches (but not exact copies).<\/p>\n<p>For <em>The Storm in the Barn<\/em>, I wanted to first write a detailed script, much like a screenplay. I described what each panel showed and included dialogue when needed. After my editor approved the script, I then began to make thumbnail sketches. Since the book was so large and there were going to be so many drawings, I wanted to make sure everything was set in the script before starting to draw. Hitchcock used this same method for making his movies. Everything was thought out first in the script, which is easier to revise than to redraw fifty pages or whatever. <\/p>\n<p><center><em>Below is a series of images showing how Matt created a page from<\/em> Storm<em> &#8212;<br \/>from script to finish. (Click each image to enlarge.)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/1scriptbit.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/1scriptbitlarge.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/2Stormthumbnails.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/2Stormthumbnailssmall.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/3StormthumbMabel.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/3StormthumbMabelsmall.jpg\" border=1\"><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/4StormSketchesRevMabel.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/4StormSketchesRevMabelpart1.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/4StormSketchesRevMabel.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/4StormSketchesRevMabelpart2.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<center><em>{Ed. Note: The above two images are from one huge spread; I separated them to make them easier to see. Click on each image to see the whole spread in its entirety.}<\/em><\/center><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/5Stormfinishedpage.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/5Stormfinishedpagesmall.jpg\" border=1><\/a><\/p>\n<p>After drawing the entire book in tiny (about one-and-a-half inch) thumbnails, I made another sketch version of the book in a slightly larger (three-inch high) format and added the dialogue. I showed this version to my editor and art director at Candlewick, changes were addressed, and then I was given the green light to proceed to the finals.<\/p>\n<p>In addition to being able to see how the book worked before I started the final drawings, this sketch version allowed me the freedom to &#8220;shoot out of sequence,&#8221; as they say in movie-making. In other words, I could spend a week or two illustrating all of the scenes between Jack and his sister Dorothy, for instance, knowing how they would fit into the sequence of pages that had been mapped out ahead of time.<\/p>\n<p>I worked on each two-page spread at the same time, so I could see how the pages would look together. I taped the paper to portable drawing boards that I could place on my table and then switch out with another spread while the ink or paint dried. The number of pages necessitated having this sort of assembly-line system. The pencil, ink, and paint stages took up most of 2008.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/Stormspread.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/Stormspreadsmall.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<center><em>(Click to enlarge.)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>2.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Describe your studio or usual work space for us.<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/phelanstudionow.jpg\" border=1><\/p>\n<p><font size=4><strong>Matt<\/strong><\/font><\/strong>: I work on the third floor of our Philadelphia rowhouse. It\u2019s a nice space with my antique drafting table, tons of books that inspire me (some from my childhood), assorted oddities, and quite a few ukuleles and other musical instruments.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/phelanbooks1.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/phelanpencils.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/phelandarts.jpg\" border=1><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>3.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: As book lovers, it interests us: What books or authors and\/or illustrators influenced you as an early reader?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/greatbiguglyman.jpg\" border=1><font size=4><strong>Matt<\/strong><\/font><\/strong>: The first book I remember buying with my allowance was <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Great-Ugly-Came-Tied-Horse\/dp\/0316852813\"><strong>A Great Big Ugly Man Tied His Horse to Me: A Book of Nonsense Verse<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wallace_Tripp\"><strong>Wallace Tripp<\/strong><\/a>. I still have it, and I can definitely see how some of those drawings influenced my work. I\u2019ve always loved <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/World-Pooh-Complete-Winnie-Pooh\/dp\/0525444475\"><strong>The World of Pooh<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, especially the wonderful illustrations by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/E._H._Shepard\"><strong>Ernest Shepard<\/strong><\/a>. They are simply the best. I devoured all of the <em>Peanuts on Parade<\/em> collections I could get my hands on. I would definitely say that <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charles_M._Schulz\"><strong>Charles Schulz<\/strong><\/a> is one of my main influences, both for his drawing and his sense of humor. Now that I think about it, <em>Peanuts<\/em> and the <em>Pooh<\/em> books (particularly the ending) probably also have a lot to do with the strain of melancholia that has been detected in my work. I also loved <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Howard_Pyle\"><strong>Howard Pyle<\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/N.C._Wyeth\"><strong>N.C. Wyeth<\/strong><\/a>, as well as the reprints of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Flash_Gordon\"><strong>Flash Gordon<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Prince_Valiant\"><strong>Prince Valiant<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, and the silver age <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marvel_comics\"><strong>Marvel<\/strong><\/a> comics (particularly <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Spider-Man\"><strong>Spider-Man<\/strong><\/a>) that were published in the seventies. I liked <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Encyclopedia_brown\"><strong>Encyclopedia Brown<\/strong><\/a><\/em> and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Superfudge\"><strong>Superfudge<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, read as many biographies as I could (like <em>Meet Ben Franklin<\/em> or <em>Meet John F. Kennedy<\/em>) and loved <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lloyd_Alexander\"><strong>Lloyd Alexander\u2019s<\/strong><\/a> <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Chronicles_of_Prydain\"><strong>Prydain<\/strong><\/a><\/em> novels. Lloyd Alexander lived in the same Philadelphia suburb that I lived in, but I never had the nerve to knock on his door.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/flashgordon2.gif\" border=1 alt=\"This is an illustration of the characters Flash Gordon and Dale Arden the day Emperor Ming was defeated, by artist Alex Raymond. As an illustration of a key event in the Flash Gordon mythology, it is fair use in the article. The copyright holder is King Features Syndicate. Image from http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Ming-defeated.gif\" title=\"This is an illustration of the characters Flash Gordon and Dale Arden the day Emperor Ming was defeated, by artist Alex Raymond. As an illustration of a key event in the Flash Gordon mythology, it is fair use in the article. The copyright holder is King Features Syndicate. Image from http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Ming-defeated.gif\"><br \/>\n<center><em>Flash Gordon and Dale Arden, as illustrated by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Alex_Raymond\"><strong>Alex Raymond<\/strong><\/a><br \/>(See image&#8217;s alt tag for copyright info.)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>4.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: If you could have three (living) illustrators&#8212;whom you have not yet met&#8212;over for coffee or a glass of rich, red wine, whom would you choose?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I\u2019ve been fortunate enough to meet a lot of great authors and illustrators in the States, but I haven\u2019t run into any from Great Britain. A pub session with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.quentinblake.com\/\"><strong>Quentin Blake<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1606\"><strong>Emily Gravett<\/strong><\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1563\"><strong>Viviane Schwarz<\/strong><\/a> sounds like fun.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/boxkittens.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/boxkittenssmall.jpg\" border=1><\/a><br \/>\n<center><em>Illustration from<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780689830891\"><strong>A Box Full of Kittens<\/strong><\/a><em> by Sonia Manzano<br \/>(Atheneum Books, 2007)<br \/>(Click to enlarge.)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/tutubeast.jpg\"><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>5.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What is currently in rotation on your iPod or loaded in your CD player? Do you listen to music while you create books?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I\u2019ll hit the shuffle on my iPod and see what comes up: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lonnie_Johnson\"><strong>Lonnie Johnson<\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Eddie_Lang\"><strong>Eddie Lang<\/strong><\/a> (early 1930s jazz guitar duets), <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Portastatic\"><strong>Portastatic<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Buddy_holly\"><strong>Buddy Holly<\/strong><\/a> (the new rarities CD), <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Replacements\"><strong>The Replacements<\/strong><\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Teenage_Fanclub\"><strong>Teenage Fanclub<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I will listen to music if it isn\u2019t too distracting to what I\u2019m doing at the time. It varies by mood, but could be anything from rock to early jazz to classical. Sometimes I\u2019ll find a piece of music that suits what I\u2019m working on, and I\u2019ll just listen to it over and over (I listened to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Maurice_Ravel\"><strong>Ravel\u2019s<\/strong><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Daphnis_et_Chloe\"><em><strong>Daphnis et Chlo\u00e9<\/strong><\/em><\/a> while drawing the climactic scenes for <em>Storm in the Barn<\/em>). I listen to a lot of NPR. While working on <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780152165833\"><strong>Big George<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, I listened to the audio book of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/1776_(book)\"><strong>1776<\/strong><\/a><\/em> by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/David_McCullough\"><strong>David McCullough<\/strong><\/a> and that helped a great deal. <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>6.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What&#8217;s one thing that most people don&#8217;t know about you?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I have no middle name.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>7.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Is there something you wish interviewers would ask you, but never do? Feel free to ask and respond here.<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: <em>Q: Beatles or Stones?<\/em> <\/p>\n<p>A: Beatles.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/redhatphelan.jpg\" border=1><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/alfred.jpg\"><center><font size=4>* * * The Pivot Questionnaire * * *<\/font><\/center><\/p>\n<p><em>{Ed. Note: I think I&#8217;m going to ask Matt if I can have this little guy here, whose name I think is Alfred, to introduce the Pivot Questionnaire for<\/em> <font size=2.5>every<\/font><em> interview. Because, you see, I love the gravity with which he ushers in this weird, little questionnaire.}<\/em><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What is your favorite word?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Shindig.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What is your least favorite word?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Maladroit.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What turns you on creatively, spiritually or emotionally?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Any form of creativity and enthusiasm in general.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What turns you off?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Negativity.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What is your favorite curse word? (optional)<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Avec!&#8221; (Thank you, <a href=\"http:\/\/parentzing.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/11\/pepe-le-pew-heart.jpg\"><strong>Pepe Le Pew<\/strong><\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What sound or noise do you love?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: My daughter&#8217;s giggle.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What sound or noise do you hate?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Those white noise machines that are supposed to relax you.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What profession other than your own would you like to attempt?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Story artist at Pixar and\/or Lighthouse Keeper.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What profession would you not like to do?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Roofer. I dislike the smell of tar. I also dislike plummeting.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Turns out you were both completely wrong AND completely right. Come on in.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><center>* * * * * * *<\/center><\/p>\n<p><em>Images of Matt, his studio, and all artwork and sketches are courtesy of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mattphelan.com\"><strong>Matt Phelan<\/strong><\/a>. All rights reserved. <\/p>\n<p>THE STORM IN THE BARN. Copyright \u00a9 2009 by Matt Phelan. Published by Candlewick Press, Somerville, MA. 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