{"id":1885,"date":"2010-02-09T00:28:28","date_gmt":"2010-02-09T06:28:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1885"},"modified":"2010-02-09T11:47:23","modified_gmt":"2010-02-09T17:47:23","slug":"seven-give-or-take-questions-over-breakfastwith-jennifer-l-holm-and-matthew-holm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1885","title":{"rendered":"Seven (Give or Take) Questions Over Breakfast<br>with Jennifer L. Holm and Matthew Holm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/holm1011.jpg\">Yesterday, in an interview at <a href=\"http:\/\/cynthialeitichsmith.blogspot.com\/2010\/02\/scbwi-bologna-2010-author-scholar.html\"><strong><em>Cynsations<\/em><\/strong><\/a> conducted by Jenny Desmond Walters for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scbwibologna.org\/\"><strong>SCBWI Bologna 2010<\/strong><\/a>, children&#8217;s book historian, author, and critic <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.leonardmarcus.com\/\">Leonard Marcus<\/a><\/strong>, when asked what future historians might have to say about children&#8217;s literature today, said: <em>&#8220;{They&#8217;ll} have a lot to say about comics and graphic novels and how and why they went from being vilified to being regarded as mainstream.&#8221;<\/em> It&#8217;s in large part thanks to this morning&#8217;s visitors to 7-Imp that they went from panned to praised. Created by two-time Newbery Honor-winning <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jenniferholm.com\/\"><strong>Jennifer L. Holm<\/strong><\/a> and her brother <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.matthewholm.net\/\">Matthew Holm<\/a><\/strong>, 2005&#8217;s <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375932298\">Babymouse #1: Queen of the World<\/a><\/strong><\/em> (all books in the series are published by Random House) was the first graphic novel to be named an ALA\/ALSC Notable Children&#8217;s Book, and the subsequent books in the series have made it one of contemporary children&#8217;s literature&#8217;s most successful series (and &#8220;one of the best characters going,&#8221; wrote <em>Kirkus<\/em> in 2008). To boot, the series was not only this funny, exciting new introduction to the graphic novel format, but also that rare bird in the graphic-novel category at that time: A series for <em>girls<\/em>. As they&#8217;ve stated in <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/graphicnovelreporter.com\/content\/mouse-roars-interview\">a previous interview<\/a><\/strong>, Jennifer was unimpressed with most of the female characters that were featured in the comics she read as a kid; thus Babymouse was born (though, as they&#8217;ve also stated in interviews before, boys are pretty crazy about the series, too). <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/queenofworld.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/queenpeek1.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/babymousecupcakes.jpg\" style=\"float:right;\">It probably goes without saying who Babymouse is. I&#8217;ve kept my eye on her and her twelve tales in the series over the years, but I haven&#8217;t talked much about her at the blog at all. Quite frankly, when a series is as huge as <em>Babymouse<\/em>, I figured other bloggers have got it covered. For those fellow children&#8217;s lit geeks who have been living under a rock <em>or<\/em> for folks who are perhaps just new to all this, here&#8217;s the low-down: With &#8220;eye-grabbing black-and-pink graphics, and a perceptible Spiegelman influence simmer{ing} in the energetic ink illustrations of the dot-eyed heroine&#8221; (<em>Publishers Weekly<\/em> in 2005), Babymouse is a grade-school mouse with a big imagination (as in, the very <em>queen<\/em> of the fantasy sequence), a devoted friend in Wilson the Weasel, an archnemesis in Felicia Furrypaws, one hard-core adoration for cupcakes, and lots and <em>lots<\/em> of pink in her life. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/heropeek1.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>Babymouse is the master of taking ennui, turning it on its head, and soaring into her own glamourous flights of fancy. Making references to movies, literature, and pop culture and filling the series with lots of humor and spunk, the Holms haven&#8217;t failed to entertain in a single title; all include an unseen narrator, often sympathetic to Babymouse, often mercilessly teasing. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/burnsrubber.JPG\" border=1>In the twelve books of the <em>Babymouse<\/em> series thus far, our wee, plucky protagonist (yeah, &#8220;plucky&#8221; gets overused, but Babymouse seems to take pluck&#8212;not to mention sass&#8212;to an art form) has fought a mighty dragon, tried to find the perfect pet, attempted to give up her cupcakes for the sake of training to be a skater girl, tried to survive Halloween (while proving that girls don&#8217;t actually <em>have<\/em> to be pretty for Halloween, despite what Felicia Furrypaws says), found out what it&#8217;s like to be Babymouserella, braved a school dance <em>and<\/em> a band concert, and much, much more. In the newest title, out last month, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375957130\"><strong>Babymouse Burns Rubber<\/strong><\/a><\/em> (involving world-saving fractions, soap box derby cars for numbskulls, and some slugs), Babymouse tries her hand at race-car driving.  <\/p>\n<p>Leonard Marcus also talked yesterday about graphic novels and funny books serving as &#8220;gateways to reading.&#8221; I think it&#8217;s safe to say <em>Babymouse<\/em> has done that for many kids today. And not just in the U.S.:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/71307736_Lillmus-Drottning1.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<center><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375932298\"><strong>Babymouse: Queen of the World<\/strong><\/a><em> translated into Swedish<br \/>by the publisher Damm F\u00f6rlag.<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/babymouse_blodeschnurrhaarefinal.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>The German version of <\/em>Babymouse<em>. Matt <a href=\"http:\/\/www.matthewholm.net\/2007\/08\/babymouse-knigin-der-welt.html\"><strong>wrote at his site<\/strong><\/a> in 2007, &#8220;The books are put out by the fabulous Bloomsbury and translated by the German children&#8217;s author <a href=\"http:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zoran_Drvenkar\"><strong>Zoran Drvenkar<\/strong><\/a>, whose quote on the promotional sheet translates roughly as: &#8216;Each Babymouse story is like an enormous chocolate box, in which, aside from the chocolates, are also found film clips and literature quotations.<br \/>Great fun\u2014without any toothache!'&#8221;<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Both Matt and Jennifer are joining me for breakfast this morning. Matt&#8212;not only illustrator of the <em>Babymouse<\/em> series, but also a graphic designer and freelance writer&#8212;is the recipient of my usual breakfast illustrator interview, and Jennifer, the author of many highly-acclaimed novels, talks a bit about more novel-writing in her future, as well as <em>Babymouse<\/em> and what it&#8217;s like working with her brother. Jennifer&#8217;s breakfast-of-choice? &#8220;I\u2019m a left-over-from-dinner kind of gal. Especially <font size=4>Chinese food<\/font>.&#8221; Matt&#8217;s opting for a more traditional breakfast, and if he doesn&#8217;t mind, I think I&#8217;ll join him, as I share his love of eggs. <font size=4>&#8220;Eggs. I love me some eggs,&#8221;<\/font> Matt said. &#8220;Either scrambled, or in Benedict or omelet form.&#8221; Let&#8217;s set the table for breakfast while we chat with Jennifer. I thank them both for stopping by. <\/p>\n<p><center>* * * * * * *<\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/newpicholm\" border=1><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Can you list your books-to-date?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jenniferholm.com\/02_mybooks\/10_penny.html\"><strong>Penny From Heaven<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jenniferholm.com\/02_mybooks\/12_meatloaf.html\"><strong>Middle School is Worse Than Meatloaf<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, The <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jenniferholm.com\/02_mybooks\/02_adventure.html\"><strong>Boston Jane<\/strong><\/a><\/em> Trilogy, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jenniferholm.com\/02_mybooks\/01_may.html\"><strong>Our Only May Amelia<\/strong><\/a><\/em>, The <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jenniferholm.com\/02_mybooks\/11_babymouse.html\"><strong>Babymouse<\/strong><\/a><\/em> series. <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Where are your stompin&#8217; grounds?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: I am a recent transplant (one year ago!) to the Bay Area. And I love all the hippies. (I am a long-time New Yorker.)<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Can you briefly tell me about your road to publication?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Write for three years, one year of many rejections, finally find agent to whom I am eternally grateful, she sells it to pub house, it sees light of day three years later.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/pennyfromheaven.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What are the joys and challenges of working with your brother?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: There is a large age difference between us (six years), so we don\u2019t have much sibling drama. Honestly, he is a joy to work with. He\u2019s ridiculously mellow. Also, we live in different cities, so that helps.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/jenni-matt-kiddiepool.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<em><center>Jennifer and Matt as children<\/center><\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/Page_1holms.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>From the special comic created by the Holms for the sci-fi site <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.suvudu.com\/\">Suvudu.com<\/a><\/strong>: Jennifer and Matt provide <a href=\"http:\/\/www.suvudu.com\/2009\/12\/kids-graphic-novel-week-babymouse.html\"><strong>an inside look<\/strong><\/a> at their process in creating<\/em><br \/>Babymouse: Dragonslayer.<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Any more historical fiction (novels) ahead in your future, you think?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/amelia.jpg\" border=1><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Yes, finally, I have a new historical coming out in May 2010. (Sorry, I have been very slowed down by popping out kids.) It\u2019s called <em>Turtle in Paradise<\/em> and is inspired by my Key West family. It involves diaper changing, scorpions, treasure and, well, just read it already!<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: If you do school visits, tell me what they\u2019re like.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: They involve a lot of costume changes, singing and drawing. In short, I aim to be amusing.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What\u2019s been some of your best <em>Babymouse<\/em> fan mail?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: I just got an email from a man asking me if I would sign books for his girlfriend as a romantic gift. I can\u2019t decide whether to be freaked out or charmed.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Any other new titles\/projects you might be working on now that you can tell me about?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Matt and I are putting to bed the first of a new graphic novel series called <em>Squish<\/em>. It\u2019s about amoebas. Yes, amoebas.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/squish-capture.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>{Ed. Note: Also forthcoming in September 2010 is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375865732\"><strong><em>Babymouse #13: Cupcake Tycoon<\/em><\/strong><\/a>.}<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/cupcaketycoon1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/cupcakesbabym.jpg\" border=1><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: As a book lover, it interests me: What books or authors and\/or illustrators influenced you as an early reader?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Mostly strip creators: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hal_Foster\"><strong>Hal Foster<\/strong><\/a> (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Prince_Valiant\"><strong>Prince Valiant<\/strong><\/a><\/em>), <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charles_M._Schulz\"><strong>Charles Schulz<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bill_Watterson\"><strong>Bill Watterson<\/strong><\/a> (of course), <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Berkeley_Breathed\"><strong>Berkeley Breathed<\/strong><\/a> (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bloom_County\"><strong>Bloom County<\/strong><\/a><\/em>). I am still a fairly rabid <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Prince_Valiant\"><strong>Prince Valiant<\/strong><\/a><\/em> fan.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/Babymousejenni.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<center><em>Jennifer with some fans<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: If you could have three (living) authors &#8212; whom you have not yet met &#8212; over for coffee or a glass of rich, red wine, whom would you choose?<\/font>\t<\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Red wine for sure or Matt\u2019s wife, Cyndi, would kill me. (She is a winemaker at a vineyard in Oregon.) I would say <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Berkeley_Breathed\"><strong>Berkeley Breathed<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lloyd_Alexander\"><strong>Lloyd Alexander<\/strong><\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bill_Watterson\"><strong>Bill Watterson<\/strong><\/a>. (Good luck with that one!)<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Can you point me to your web site and\/or blog?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: <strong><a href=\"www.jenniferholm.com\">www.jenniferholm.com<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/holm124a.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What&#8217;s one thing that most people don&#8217;t know about you?<\/font>\t<\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: I like salt. I mean, I really really like it. I put it on everything &#8211;even watermelon. Matt gave me a huge block of pink salt for my 40th birthday.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Is there something you wish interviewers would ask you &#8212; but never do? Feel free to ask and respond here.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: <em>Q: Is being a writer what you thought it would be?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A: In short, no. It involves huge stretches of time that I must spend alone with me, myself, and I &#8212; and, quite frankly, we are all boring after a while. Thank heavens for Facebook.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/alfred.jpg\"><center><font size=4>* The Pivot Questionnaire: Jennifer *<\/font><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is your favorite word?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Typical.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is your least favorite word?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Babe.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What turns you on creatively, spiritually or emotionally?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: A basket of clean, folded laundry.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What turns you off?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: A towering basket of dirty laundry.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is your favorite curse word? (optional)<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Let me ask my six-year-old son, Will. <\/p>\n<p><em>Will: \u201cMommy says a lot of bad words but I can\u2019t say them or I get in time-out is this a trick I don\u2019t want time-out but one is really bad even my teacher says so can I have some ice cream now?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What sound or noise do you love?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Quiet. <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What sound or noise do you hate?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Mommy, I feel sick!&#8221; followed by barfing.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What profession other than your own would you like to attempt?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Strangely enough, medicine. (Dad was a doctor; mom, a nurse.)<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What profession would you not like to do?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: Film director. (And I will be the only person you will ever hear say this, I guarantee!)<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Jenni<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;We just got the place cleaned.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><center>* * * * * * *<\/center><\/p>\n<p>Now it&#8217;s time for our eggs with Matt. As mentioned, I gave him my usual illustrator interview. Let&#8217;s get right to it&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/bm_puppy_authorpic.jpg\" border=1><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Are you an illustrator or author\/illustrator?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Author\/Illustrator, I suppose. Honestly, I&#8217;m not much of an illustrator, as illustrators go. I didn&#8217;t go to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.risd.edu\/\"><strong>RISD<\/strong><\/a>. I&#8217;ve never actually painted with gouache. I&#8217;m a lousy airbrusher. Mostly, I&#8217;m a cartoonist. I studied that very narrow field &#8212; very, very diligently. Plus, there was all that writing. I graduated from college with a degree in English Writing (Nonfiction). Eventually, I abandoned a perfectly good career as a writer\/editor at Hearst Magazines after eight years. So I&#8217;m essentially a writer who was given the opportunity to draw cartoon mice.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is your usual medium, or&#8211;\u2013if you use a variety&#8212;your preferred one?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Is Adobe Photoshop really a &#8220;medium?&#8221; (This is the kind of world in which we live today, I suppose.) I do the <em>Babymouse<\/em> books on the computer in Adobe Photoshop, using a Wacom drawing tablet and stylus. Our new graphic novel series, <em>Squish<\/em> (Summer 2011), is being done in Adobe Illustrator, an entirely different type of computer program. (But the difference between the two is probably irrelevant to 99% of your audience, and explaining it would likely cause a giant yawn-fest.) I also do all my early thumbnail sketches in pencil and my better sketches in Sharpie marker.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/early_bm2.0431.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/early_bm1.0401.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>Early Babymouse: Matt&#8217;s first two drawings of the character (though it was initially Jennifer who quickly sketched Babymouse on a napkin,<br \/>when first conceiving the character)<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/dragonslayer_peek.jpg\" border=1><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Where are your stompin\u2019 grounds?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: \tI&#8217;ve lived in Portland, Oregon, for three years. It&#8217;s a nice city\u2014good food, very bikeable and walkable, and not nearly as wet as everyone thinks. (Hint: it never rains a drop from Memorial Day to Labor Day.) There are also more kidlit folks than I can shake a stick at. I lived in NYC and New York&#8217;s Hudson Valley for years, but I knew absolutely no one in the industry until I moved to Portland.<\/p>\n<p><em>{Ed. Note: Pictured here is an illustration from <\/em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375957123\">Babymouse #11: Dragonslayer<\/a><\/strong>.}<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Can you briefly tell me your road to publication?<\/font>  <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: \tIn 2000, sister wins silver Newbery medal. In 2001, sister and I try to pitch something called &#8220;a graphic novel for kids&#8221; (a book category that does not yet exist). But, despite sister&#8217;s silver Newbery, no one is interested. In 2004, sister pitches &#8220;graphic novel for kids&#8221; for the last time, as she is moving out of New York City. Several publishers still unsure, but Random House loves it. Cue strings, chorus of heavenly host, etc. Because of production schedule (four books due in about eighteen months), I have to quit my day job and draw full-time. I move further up the Hudson Valley and live in sister&#8217;s vacant weekend house so that I can afford to both draw and eat.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Can you please point readers to your web site and\/or blog?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/monstermash_excerpt1.jpg\" style=\"float:right;\"><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Our kid-friendly web site is <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.babymouse.com\">www.babymouse.<br \/>com<\/a><\/strong>; lots of fun stuff to do and lots of resources for educators. My own blog is <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.matthewholm.net\">www.matthewholm.<br \/>net<\/a><\/strong>; it has more resources for teachers, but not much stuff for kids to do, I&#8217;m afraid. There are links to all my books, postings about events, and my thoughts on publishing, especially comics publishing and how it intersects children&#8217;s publishing.<\/p>\n<p><em>{Ed. Note: Pictured here is an illustration from <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375937897\"><strong>Babymouse #9: Monster Mash<\/strong><\/a>.}<\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: If you do school visits, tell me what they\u2019re like.<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I&#8217;m actually in the middle of a week of school visits in Humble, Texas, as I write this! For my school visits, I do a presentation using PowerPoint (boy &#8230; doesn&#8217;t that have &#8220;boring corporate quarterly sales meeting&#8221; written all over it?) that is NOT boring and recounts our childhood, how it inspired <em>Babymouse<\/em>, and how Jenni and I work together to create the books. Then, I pull kids out of the audience and have them give me ideas for how to draw <em>Babymouse<\/em>. Plus, I sign whatever books they throw at me (occasionally, not even my own) and answer all manner of questions.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/journalista_babymousedeadfish1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>From <\/em>Babymouse #8: Puppy Love<\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Any new titles\/projects you might be working on now that you can tell me about?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: We&#8217;re working on a new graphic novel series, called <em>Squish<\/em>. It follows the exploits of an amoeba and his microscopic friends. It works in a little bit of science (not too much) and has lots of fun nods to classic <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Silver_Age_of_Comic_Books\">Silver Age superhero comics<\/a><\/strong>. The size format is the same as that of <em>Babymouse<\/em>\u2014but the boys out there will be relieved to hear that the accent color will NOT be pink. (Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with pink!) Due out in Summer 2011!<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/coffee cup8.jpg\" alt=\"Mmm. Coffee.\" title=\"Mmm. Coffee.\"><font color=\"000066\">Time to refill our coffee cups. And, without further ado, let&#8217;s get to the seven questions over breakfast of my illustrator interview. Thanks again to both Jennifer and Matt for stopping by.<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>1.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What exactly is your process when you are illustrating a book? You can start wherever you\u2019d like when answering: getting initial ideas, starting to illustrate, or even what it\u2019s like under deadline, etc. Do you outline a great deal of the book before you illustrate or just let your muse lead you on and see where you end up?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: When I was in college, my fiction teachers told me that the way to write was simply to start writing and see where the characters took you\u2014never outline, never plan more than a paragraph ahead. Having written a large number of things in the years since then, I find that advice to be utter nonsense. I much prefer the advice I got from my painting and figure drawing teachers, which was to never focus on a single part of the page or canvas, but to work everywhere all at once, so that you gradually move from roughed-in composition to finer and finer details, all over the scene. That&#8217;s how I treat writing (by outlining and by jotting down key moments\/dialogue\/etc. that I want to place in each scene) and drawing. <\/p>\n<p>For a book like <em>Babymouse<\/em>, after Jenni and I and our editors have worked over the manuscript, I do a bunch of thumbnail sketches with pencil (a cheap, disposable plastic Paper-Mate #2 mechanical pencil\u2014that way I never have to stop to sharpen it, and never have to worry about losing it) in a small, spiral-bound sketchbook. (I like the spiral-bound ones because you can fold them flat for scanning art into the computer, or rip pages out as needed.) When I&#8217;m drawing the thumbnails, I just try to think of every angle or action that we might need in order to &#8220;cover&#8221; each scene in the book, almost as if we were shooting film for a movie. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/skater_thumb1.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>Next, I scan in the sketchbook pages and e-mail them to Jenni, who prints them, cuts them out, and pastes them down into a rough layout that will fit our 96-page format. She sends them back to me, and I draw &#8220;good&#8221; sketches. I print out template sheets (they show the margins, edge of the page, etc.) at the actual size of the books&#8217; two-page &#8220;spreads&#8221; (i.e., the right- and left-hand pages you see next to each other when you open a book) and then draw the art again, this time using Sharpie markers. My goal throughout the illustration process is never to overwork anything early on, because I find you can very quickly lose the &#8220;verve&#8221; that you find in early sketches\u2014and rarely find in carefully pencilled and inked drawings. I could never work for someone like Marvel or DC, because I never do final pencils. Instead, my marker sketches serve as a very, very loose &#8220;pencil&#8221; that I draw the final &#8220;inks&#8221; on top of in the computer, using my Wacom tablet and stylus. But I rarely follow those &#8220;pencils&#8221; very tightly, which gives the final inks a lot more liveliness, in my opinion. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/skater_sketch14.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/skater_final1.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>2.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: Describe your studio or usual work space.<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><font size=4><strong>Matt<\/strong><\/font><\/strong>: One of our bedrooms (the small one) is my office. I have two four-foot-wide desks placed side-by-side, with a computer on either end: a Mac Mini, which has a moderately large monitor and is attached to my scanners, and a Dell PC that I use for accounting or for watching TV (it has a little USB hookup thingy that the cable TV plugs into). Since the Mac Mini is rapidly becoming obsolete (I can&#8217;t upgrade its operating system any further), I actually do 99% of my work on a small MacBook with a 13-inch screen, which I plop in the middle of the two desks with a 9-by-12-inch Wacom tablet plugged into it. And since it&#8217;s a laptop and portable, I do at least 50% of my work on the kitchen table or counter, despite having an office of my own. That&#8217;s just the way I am. My office also has a great big color printer (for which I need to buy new toner: Memo to myself&#8230;), a disgusting tangle of networking and power cables on the floor, and several filing cabinets and large bookshelves, the latter of which are filled with children&#8217;s books, comics, and sci-fi. I also have a great many <em>Star Wars<\/em> figures and vehicles overlooking my work area. Because I&#8217;m a giant nerd. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/bm_starwars.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>From <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375957130\"><strong>Babymouse #12: Babymouse Burns Rubber<\/strong><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/guestriker.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>Matt&#8217;s 2009 contribution to <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/cmdrriker.tumblr.com\/\"><strong>Number One<\/strong><\/a><em>, a Commander Riker of the Day Tumblr site.<\/em><\/center> <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>3.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: As a book lover, it interests me: What books or authors and\/or illustrators influenced you as an early reader?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=4><strong>Matt<\/strong><\/font><\/strong>: For me, it was <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dr._Seuss\"><strong>Dr. Seuss<\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charles_Schulz\"><strong>Charles Schulz<\/strong><\/a> all the way. I divided my time evenly between reading <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Peanuts\"><strong>Peanuts<\/strong><\/a><\/em> cartoon collections and reading Seuss books. We had tons of both and hardly any other kids&#8217; books. I remember maybe one <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Richard_scarry\"><strong>Richard Scarry<\/strong><\/a> book, one <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Berenstain_bears\"><strong>Berenstain Bears<\/strong><\/a> book, a scattering of Sesame Street books (like <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Monster_at_the_End_of_This_Book\">The Monster at the End of this Book<\/a><\/strong><\/em>), and <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Go,_Dog._Go!\">Go, Dog. Go!<\/a><\/strong><\/em> All the rest were Seuss. I never read many of the other &#8220;classics.&#8221; I never read <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Goodnight_Moon\"><strong>Goodnight Moon<\/strong><\/a><\/em> until we had to parody it in <em>Babymouse<\/em>. I never read <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Where_The_Wild_Things_Are\"><strong>Where the Wild Things Are<\/strong><\/a><\/em> until this year. And, after the picture-book phase ended, I read few middle-grade chapter books. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever read a <a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1526\"><strong>Judy Blume<\/strong><\/a> book. As soon as I could, I moved straight to fantasy and sci-fi novels.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/bm_goodnightmoon.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>From <\/em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375957130\">Babymouse #12: Babymouse Burns Rubber<\/a><\/strong><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>4.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: If you could have three (living) illustrators&#8212;whom you have not yet met&#8212;over for coffee or a glass of rich, red wine, whom would you choose?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Is it weird that they&#8217;d all be cartoonists? Because I&#8217;d love to get <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bill_Watterson\"><strong>Bill Watterson<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Berkeley_Breathed\"><strong>Berkeley Breathed<\/strong><\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gary_Larson\"><strong>Gary Larson<\/strong><\/a> together in one room. Talk about a meeting of the minds! If nothing else, I&#8217;d love to hear their differing perspectives on the comics renaissance of the \u201980s that they oversaw.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/tomie_babymouse_1000px.jpg\" border=1><br \/>\n<center><em>Matt&#8217;s contribution to Tomie dePaola&#8217;s birthday\/tribute site, <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/threekissesfortomie.blogspot.com\/\"><strong>Three Kisses for Tomie<\/strong><\/a>.<\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>5.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is currently in rotation on your iPod or loaded in your CD player? Do you listen to music while you create books?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: I can only listen to music at certain points of the process. There are non-analytical tasks, like inking and coloring, that, to me, lend themselves to listening to music. All of the planning, the layout, the composition, perspective, etc., etc., has already been taken care of, so you&#8217;re moving on autopilot. But for a lot of the process, I can&#8217;t have music on at all. It&#8217;s too distracting. If I have to figure something out, I need quiet. So, a lot of times, I&#8217;ll start up some music on my computer, then, a few minutes later, mute the sound so that I can think clearly. Hours later, I&#8217;ll realize that iTunes is still running, unheard. As far as the music itself, I tend to listen to either alternative rock (<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Live_(band)\">Live<\/a><\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/stonetemplepilots.com\/\"><strong>Stone Temple Pilots<\/strong><\/a>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.weezer.com\/\">Weezer<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.foofighters.com\/us\/home\">Foo Fighters<\/a><\/strong>) or poppy girl rock\/folk vocalists (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vanessacarlton.com\/\"><strong>Vanessa Carlton<\/strong><\/a>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/reginasplash.warnerreprise.com\/\">Regina Spektor<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ashleesimpsonmusic.com\/\">Ashlee Simpson<\/a><\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sarahmclachlan.com\/\"><strong>Sarah McLachlan<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fiona-apple.com\/\"><strong>Fiona Apple<\/strong><\/a>). I don&#8217;t really have much of an explanation for either, except that I like vocalist-centered songs that have some sort of emotion to them. That said, I also have a lot of heavy Industrial music (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nin.com\/\"><strong>Nine Inch Nails<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ministry_(band)\"><strong>Ministry<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marilynmanson.com\/\"><strong>Marilyn Manson<\/strong><\/a>) in my rotation, plus a large amount of nerdy Progressive rock (Peter Gabriel-era <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Genesis_(band)\"><strong>Genesis<\/strong><\/a>). As a result, I occasionally have auto-generated song mixes come up in which Sarah McLachlan&#8217;s &#8220;Adia&#8221; is followed by Ministry&#8217;s &#8220;Burning Inside.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/1bmouse1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<center><em>From <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiebound.org\/book\/9780375932328\"><strong>Babymouse #4: Rock Star<\/strong><\/a>.<\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><font size=5>6.<\/font> <strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What&#8217;s one thing that most people don&#8217;t know about you?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Apparently, that I listen to Vanessa Carlton and Ashlee Simpson! Also, I was once in an independent film called <em>The Hall Monitor<\/em>. It was a dark comedy, and I played a football player who gets bumped off by a mysterious serial killer.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/alfred.jpg\"><center><font size=4>* The Pivot Questionnaire: Matt *<\/font><\/center><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is your favorite word?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Monkey!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is your least favorite word?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Solutions&#8221; (in its Internet business-gibberish mode, such as, &#8220;a full-service web-based Solutions Provider&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What turns you on creatively, spiritually or emotionally?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Other competent, creative people.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What turns you off?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: People who have no ability to get things done.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What is your favorite curse word? (optional)<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Well, since I&#8217;m a cartoonist, I can confidently transcribe it in cartoon language as &#8220;@*&#038;#!!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What sound or noise do you love?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: The <em>Star Wars<\/em> theme.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What sound or noise do you hate?<\/font> <\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: The Alarm Clock Beep. It should be illegal to use that sound in TV commercials or other non-wake-up situations.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What profession other than your own would you like to attempt?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Home-builder. Eight years at a shelter magazine left their mark on me. But I wouldn&#8217;t want to be an architect\u2014that&#8217;s a business that&#8217;s filled with angst and misery.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: What profession would you not like to do?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: Professional chef. I love cooking, and I don&#8217;t want to grow to hate it. <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"000066\"><strong><font size=4>Jules<\/font><\/strong>: If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><strong><font size=4>Matt<\/font><\/strong>: &#8220;Sorry for all the confusion.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><center><object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/EjMNNpIksaI&#038;hl=en_US&#038;fs=1&#038;\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/EjMNNpIksaI&#038;hl=en_US&#038;fs=1&#038;\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><\/embed><\/object><\/center><\/p>\n<p><center>* * * * * * *<\/center><\/p>\n<p><em>All art and photos used with permission of Jennifer L. Holm and Matt Holm. All rights reserved.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The spiffy and slightly sinister gentleman introducing the Pivot Questionnaire is Alfred. He was created by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mattphelan.com\/\"><strong>Matt Phelan<\/strong><\/a>, and he made his 7-Imp premiere in <a href=\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/sevenimpossiblethings\/?p=1790\"><strong>mid-September of 2009<\/strong><\/a>. Matt told Alfred to just pack his bags and live at 7-Imp forever and always introduce Pivot. 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