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I love this post, yet I can’t take credit for the idea. <\/p>\nI love this post, yet I can’t take credit for the idea. <\/p>\n
You all remember 2008’s Hush, Little Dragon<\/strong><\/em><\/a> (Abrams), written by Boni Ashburn<\/a><\/strong> and illustrated by Kelly Murphy<\/a><\/strong>, yes? I loved this delightfully subversive, subtly ghoulish little wonder, what the San Francisco Chronicle<\/em> called “Sweeney Todd<\/em> for the sandbox set” (it brought “a welcome tartness to mother love,” wrote the Washington Post<\/em>), in which a mama dragon and her wee dragon settle down for the night (set to the tune of Hush, Little Baby<\/em>), pondering which of the villagers in their medieval home they will snack upon in the way of a bed-time treat. <\/p>\n Well, Boni has written a sequel, released by Abrams this March, in which we visit the same dragons and village, and this time it’s set to the tune of Over in the Meadow<\/em>, making this one a counting book, as well. Over at the Castle<\/a><\/strong><\/em> brings Boni and Kelly together again. And when I asked Boni about visiting 7-Imp to talk about the new title, she had a pretty kickin’ idea, and that would be to ask three other folks the same four questions she answered, in order to bring us unique perspectives on the process of picture-book-making: the illustrator, Kelly Murphy<\/a><\/strong> (who rendered this title in acrylic, oil, and gel medium); the editor, Maggie Lehrman; and the art director\/book designer, Chad W. Beckerman<\/a><\/strong>. I love the idea so much I want to build a wayback machine and actually go to the prom, taking the idea as my date. (Shut up! No, I didn’t go. My contrarian friends and I filmed a horror-movie spoof that night instead, but I digress.) I even think it’d be fun to consider doing similar posts in the future. Kudos to Boni for the idea!<\/p>\n <\/p>\n The new title is playful, suspenseful, and full of amusing details for observant eyes. Let’s get right to it, and I thank all four folks for stopping by — and for sharing some spreads from the book (some with text; some without)…<\/p>\n 7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What was your first impression or reaction to the Hush<\/em> manuscript?<\/font><\/font> <\/p>\n Kelly<\/font><\/strong>: Honestly? Ohmigod, I get to illustrate a whole book with dragons? AWESOME. Instantly, I knew that the playful manuscript had a lot of room for character, humor, and environment. And I was super excited to research the different types of dragons within a broad range of cultures. <\/p>\n Maggie<\/font><\/strong>: I first read Hush<\/em> in 2005, soon after I started at Abrams. I knew as soon as I read it that it was something special \u2014 it was just so surprising! When you\u2019re reading manuscripts for a long period of time, you see the same things over and over. I remember when I first read Hush<\/em>, I had to go back and start again immediately, because I couldn\u2019t believe an author had been so audacious in her concept. I was very lucky that the rest of the Abrams team thought it was funny, too—it\u2019s a pleasure to work with people who have well-developed senses of humor—and then a few short years later, it became a book.<\/p>\n Chad<\/font><\/strong>: At first glance, we were worried: How are we going to pull off people getting attacked and eaten by dragons and not freak people out? Other than that, it seemed to be a fresh take on the lullaby. Kelly Murphy, I believe, really saved the day. She was able to create dragons that were more ‘human’ than the actual people; this was helped by contrasting the dragons against how she illustrated the people, with very limited details. This helps us identify with the dragons more than we did with the poor souls that were being attacked. <\/p>\n 7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: Describe a part of the Castle<\/em> process that was challenging or surprising, taking into consideration that it is a sequel.<\/font><\/font> <\/p>\n Boni<\/font><\/strong>: I had just sold Hush<\/em> and wanted to do a re-working of the song Over In The Meadow<\/em>. I found a lot of animal-habitat versions of the song but very few with human characters. I thought a castle setting would be perfect, but it was a bit of a challenge working the dragons and the dark humor from Hush<\/em> into it, too. Castle<\/em> actually had a different ending originally, a darker destiny for all those castle-dwellers, but we decided to change it — it was a little too straight-up scary. Fortunately, Kelly was able to weave some wonderful humor into the illustrations via a sub-plot with the prisoner in the dungeon. It ended up being my favorite part of the book! <\/p>\n Kelly<\/font><\/strong>: With the characters and painting style already in place, the real challenge was with the composition and scene changes. Because of the numbered structure to the story, I had to make sure that for the younger audience it was easy for them to follow along, but still engaging enough for the older children to learn about medieval life. With Hush<\/em>, I did not do as much research into the architectural construction of these walled sites. With such a varied cast, and much of it taking place indoors, I knew I should get some solid reference before I started sketching.<\/p>\n Maggie<\/font><\/strong>: Castle<\/em> is a bit of an unusual sequel, because the main characters (the dragons) from the first book are more like secondary characters in this one. In addition, the book has several new elements—lots of new characters and a counting book format—that meant we had to approach it a little differently. We wanted to make sure that the dragons were still a big presence, even though the town takes on more of an important role. Also, in Hush<\/em> Kelly had conceived the dragons as these adorable, big-eyed cuddlies and the townspeople as much more interchangeable (wisely, in order to lessen the effect of the \u201ceating people\u201d plot), and so focusing more on the people might have been more of a challenge for her…. I loved getting to see more of the town. You really get a sense of the busy life they lead — with the dragons peeking over their shoulders at every turn.<\/p>\n Chad<\/font><\/strong>: Unlike Hush<\/em>, this book now was centered around the people of the castle. So, basically, it was the opposite problem of Hush<\/em>. Now we needed to make the people more human.<\/p>\n 7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: How did the finished books vary or evolve from your initial vision of the books?<\/font><\/font> <\/p>\n Boni<\/font><\/strong>: When I wrote Hush<\/em>, I envisioned silly, cartoonish illustrations — mostly to counterbalance the dark humor. For my school visits, I commissioned a friend of mine, Ruth McNally Barshaw<\/a><\/strong> (who writes and illustrates the Ellie McDoodle<\/a><\/strong> series) to paint a picture of the dragon I saw in my head — so that kids can see how different they are from what I imagined. It’s a visual demonstration of the magic of picture books — many people collaborate to produce one vision, and it often evolves into something unexpected, but better. Kelly is a total genius, and my dragons are so much cooler than I thought they’d be!<\/p>\n Kelly<\/font><\/strong>: I initially had done a few cut-out characters for the dragons. I loved the way their jointed bodies moved and how it might be fun to set up each page with the freedom of moving them around a small stage until I got the perfect moment. But I always did know that I wanted the castle and it inhabitants to take on this sort of doll-like presence. I think it was a palatable way of having them being tormented by these dragons, like the Doozers with the fraggles<\/a><\/strong> in Fraggle Rock<\/em>.<\/p>\n Chad<\/font><\/strong>: Interesting question. I am not really sure I had a vision for these books. If anything, I let the process speak toward their evolution.<\/p>\n 7-Imp<\/font><\/strong>: What\u2019s next for you?<\/font><\/font> <\/p>\n Boni<\/font><\/strong>: My next book with Abrams is called I Had A Favorite Dress<\/em>. This book was pure joy to write. It just flowed from my pen to the page in a way not all books do. It’s being illustrated by the very talented Julia Denos<\/a><\/strong> and comes out in the fall of 2011. My other 2011 book is being published by Sterling and is called Builder Goose: It’s Construction Rhyme Time<\/em>. I’ve seen the sketches, and it’s going to be adorable! And I’ve just sold a couple of new books — one to Beach Lane, who does such fabulous picture books, and another one to Abrams. (So, I get to keep working with Maggie too — yay!) Both of those will hopefully be out in 2012.<\/p>\n {Ed. Note: Pictured above and right is, Julia tells me, “one of the many little concepts I did for the main character’s ‘favorite dress,'” though it’s not her actual favorite, for the forthcoming <\/em>I Had a Favorite Dress. Julia will be visiting 7-Imp soon for a breakfast chat.}<\/em><\/p>\n Kelly<\/font><\/strong>: Well, Haunted Houses: Are You Scared Yet?<\/a><\/strong><\/em>, written by Robert San Souci<\/a><\/strong> and illustrated by my husband Antoine Revoy<\/a><\/strong> and me, was released in July. It’s got a boatload of spooky pen-and-ink drawings that were a blast to create. <\/p>\n I have also finished up the paintings for my next picture book, Creeping Monsters, Sleeping Monsters<\/em>, written by Jane Yolen<\/a><\/strong>, published by Candlewick Press. I think it is to be released some time next year. <\/p>\n I am also continuously at work on the chapter series, Nathaniel Fludd: Beastologist<\/a><\/strong><\/em>, written by R. L. LaFevers<\/a><\/strong> and published by Houghton Mifflin. <\/p>\n This summer has been enjoyable also, because I’ve gotten a chance to tinker a bit with my own work as well, playing around with stop-motion animation. <\/p>\n Maggie<\/font><\/strong>: Boni\u2019s next book with us, I Had a Favorite Dress<\/em>, will be illustrated by Julia Denos<\/a><\/strong> and comes out next fall. We\u2019ve just finished with the sketch process for that, and it\u2019s going to be adorable \u2014 no dragons, but you can\u2019t have everything! Other than that, I\u2019m hard at work on the Abrams and Amulet Spring and Fall 2011 lists, which are filled with tons of exciting stuff!<\/p>\n Chad<\/font><\/strong>: Next up is Boni’s My Favorite Dress<\/em>, illustrated by Julia Denos, who just finished up illustrating Dotty<\/a><\/strong><\/em> for us. Julia just keeps getting better with each books she does. (Here<\/a><\/strong> and here<\/a><\/strong> are some visits Julia made to Chad’s blog.)<\/em><\/p>\n HUSH, LITTLE DRAGON. Copyright 2008 by Boni Ashburn. Illustration \u00a9 2008 by Kelly Murphy. Published by Abrams Books for Young Readers, New York, NY. Spread used with permission of illustrator.<\/em><\/p>\n OVER AT THE CASTLE. Copyright 2010 by Boni Ashburn. Illustration \u00a9 2010 by Kelly Murphy. Published by Abrams Books for Young Readers, New York, NY. Spreads used with permission of illustrator and publisher.<\/em><\/p>\n Ashburn photo courtesy of author.<\/em> <\/p>\n Early concept from <\/em>I Had a Favorite Dress \u00a9 2010 and used with permission of Julia Denos.<\/em><\/p>\n Other images and sketches from Kelly Murphy are \u00a9 2010 and used with her permission. Images from <\/em>Haunted Houses: Are You Scared Yet? are \u00a9 2010 by Antoine Revoy and Kelly Murphy.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" I love this post, yet I can’t take credit for the idea. You all remember 2008’s Hush, Little Dragon (Abrams), written by Boni Ashburn and illustrated by Kelly Murphy, yes? 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Boni<\/font><\/strong>: I had so much fun writing Hush<\/em>! My husband, however, thought I’d gone off the deep end, and so did my critique group. But I really felt I had something that worked, so I pursued it. There is a long history of dark humor in children’s literature, and I kind of wanted to be a part of that — smart, funny books that respect kids are so awesome. I’m just really grateful Maggie felt the same way and pulled my manuscript from the slush pile!<\/p>\n![](\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/battle1.jpg\")
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Scheme the old wily prisoner and his pet rats five.
‘Plan!’ says the prisoner. ‘We plan!’ say the five.
So they plan their great escape, in the dungeon, still alive.”<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n![](\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/castle_spinner-use.jpg\")
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Toil the old woman weaver and her little weavers seven.
‘Spin!’ says the woman. ‘We spin!’ say the seven.
So they spin all day in the tower up to heaven.”<\/em><\/center><\/p>\n![](\"http:\/\/blaine.org\/jules\/OverattheCastle5-small.jpg\")
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Dance the guests at the party, a festive group of eight.
‘Eat and drink!’ says the lord. ‘Be merry!’ cry the eight.
So they dance, eat, and drink in the hall grand and great.”<\/em>
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All the weary people rest and heave great sighs.
They gaze out their windows with drowsy eyes
As the castle yawns under clear, dark skies.
Then . . .”<\/em><\/center><\/p>\nMaggie<\/font><\/strong>: Boni may have already shared this story with you, but I think one of the most interesting things is how the ending evolved. The text didn\u2019t change, but we discovered somewhere along the process that we had completely different interpretations as to what was actually happening in the story. I had always imagined something like the fireworks you see in the book \u2014 but Boni had envisioned somewhat of more destructive ending, with the dragons attacking rather than entertaining. I think that the tone of the sequel is a bit more community-based and sweeter than Hush<\/em>, and though the twist ending would have made sense for the dragons of the first book, I think a moment of coming-together worked as well \u2014 and Kelly really captured that community feeling. I\u2019m glad we could see eye-to-eye on it!<\/p>\n
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